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| Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! I couldn't resist.
But I fail to see the logic in going after them. If you just ignore them, they'd go do their thing in peace. We wouldn't have to care if they are crazy or not. But why make them front page news week after week?
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| Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! Because they actively repress and mistreat their own followers. Look at the link citing their other offenses. Oppression, forced abortions, unwilling imprisonment, negligent death (if not murder), extortion, black mail. And this is often to the people that would be involved with them even if the critics left them alone.
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Camelot One
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! Darwinian justice, eh? | |
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| Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! They don't only oppress their followers, they have a policy called "Fair Game" in which the "Religious Technology Center" (The head of the 'church') claims that any enemies of the church are "fair game, and they may be harassed, injured, badmouthed, attacked, or destroyed" without any reprisal from the church. The CoS claims that it is above the law.
Operation Snow White was the biggest infiltration of the US government in its history, and was Scientology placing bugs and moles in the IRS and other government headquarters to destroy evidence of wrongdoing by scientology and get dirt on critics of Scientology, among many WORSE things. The founder's wife, Mary Sue Hubbard was convicted and sent to prison, and L Ron Hubbard, the founder, went into hiding after stealing 200 million dollars from the church.
We are not attacking a religion. They may practice their religious ceremonies however they choose, and may believe whatever they choose. We are attacking a greedy and evil corporation that is using a religion as a defense from prosecution. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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Morristown, NJ | Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! said by Anonymous1023 :
We are attacking a greedy and evil corporation that is using a religion as a defense from prosecution.
Whoa! Who's talking about the catholic church? | |
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james
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Operation Snow White was the biggest infiltration of the US government in its history Yeah, the biggest until all those Israeli spies worked their way into highly sensitive positions with access to nuclear secrets. Or those Commie spies during the Cold War. I think it would be more fair to say scientology was a very large infiltration, it's just so hard to know for sure which is biggest.
Also, they aren't using religion as an excuse from prosecution, they're using it as a tax dodge.
Also, I noticed ur name is anonymous, r u teh haxorz dat maeks them DoS? | |
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n2jtx
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Because they actively repress and mistreat their own followers. Exactly, "their own followers". Just ignore them, it is called free will. I have never heard of them driving around in buses collecting people against their will.
Personally I have no use for them but I accept that there are people who freely join.
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| Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! said by n2jtx :Exactly, "their own followers". Just ignore them, it is called free will. I have never heard of them driving around in buses collecting people against their will. What about Charles Manson? What about Jonestown? Should we have stopped them?
We didn't. And look what happened. | |
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hpguru
Curb Your Dogma
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| said by n2jtx :Personally I have no use for them but I accept that there are people who freely join. There are people who shoot heroin into their arms freely. That doesn't mean you don't pursue their oppressors. Whether "good" or "bad", religion truly is the opiate of the people and it is going to cause us endless problems until the day that thinking people intervene.
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| said by Camelot One :I couldn't resist. But I fail to see the logic in going after them. If you just ignore them, they'd go do their thing in peace. We wouldn't have to care if they are crazy or not. But why make them front page news week after week? Scientology is a dangerous cult that uses mafia like tactics to extract money not only from followers but any place else they can. Read the time story back in 1991:»www.time.com/time/magazine/artic···,00.html | |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
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ß | Those Thetans are really getting crazy Serenity now SERENITY NOW! | |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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| Re: Those Thetans are really getting crazy said by AnonProxy :Serenity now SERENITY NOW! Time for an airing of the grievances, George! 
Let me tell ya man, my E-meter broke last week, and my Thetan level is just through the ROOF!. I mean, I think I can actually see what's his face in the volcano.
Quick, someone get me to the Gold base so Scientology can drain my bank account.
Oh wait, the gas station is all ready doing that.
Personally, I LOVE Scientology. I think they're full of shit, and they rip people off. But, it's just FANTASTIC fodder for humor.
While I feel for folks that have been sucked into a cult, but it's still a partially free sorta country.....
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2 edits | Don't deny it After seeing The Gift, y'all would stand on a sofa to bang Katie Holmes too. | |
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| Re: Don't deny it said by Dogfather :After seeing The Gift, y'all would stand on a sofa to bang Katie Holmes too. Shhhhh! Don't tell my secret.
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Re: CNET - Sat 26th January '08:
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Zerny
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Fort Gratiot, MI | Well Your either with Cruise or your with the terrorist. | |
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nklb
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1 edit | invalid link in article The ABC News link seems to have an issue.
At least for me my browser sees a superfluous "<br>" at the end that makes clicking on the link go to an error page.
Edit: looks like the mods fixed it | |
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mesmerMAN
join:2006-01-18
Miami, FL | what are your crimes broadband reports? What are your crimes!? | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
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1 edit | When people ask me about the mythos of Scientology..... I direct them to the story of Gwar on the Gwar website. It is just about the same only Gwar's is much more interesting.
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We don't miss you Bush
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North Babylon, NY | Eh Good for them, Scientology should be outlawed anyway. | |
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| Re: Eh said by mrchris :Good for them, Scientology should be outlawed anyway. Right after organized religion AKA Christianity is. | |
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USA | Re: Eh He makes a good point - why consider banning one fairytale-based religion and not the other? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say. | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Eh becouse Christianity doesnt ask you for hundreds of thousands for dollars to "improve your life"
or brain wash there follows to leave there friends and family
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ESSE QUAM VIDERI
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| Re: Eh Can we say "The Crusades"? Organized religion is one of the major causes of death throughout history.
Scientology is less a religion and more a philosophy of life. They use the words "church" and "religion" because there are financial advantages to them (taxes). Read Dianetics just for kicks, the first half or so of the book is fairly interesting as it introduces "Dianetic Theory", but it gets a bit far fetched (IMHO) when talking about "Dianetic Therapy" and the varying states of "clear".
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| Re: Eh said by muiredised :Scientology is less a religion and more a philosophy of life. They use the words "church" and "religion" because there are financial advantages to them (taxes). Read Dianetics just for kicks, the first half or so of the book is fairly interesting as it introduces "Dianetic Theory", but it gets a bit far fetched (IMHO) when talking about "Dianetic Therapy" and the varying states of "clear". »theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
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| Not sure what your reply has to do with my statement "the truthdude". Perhaps I should have made it clear that I do not subscribe to the beliefs/policies of Scientology. Read my post closely and find the words "far fetched". I can, however, see the allure of an alternative to traditional "religions", and as stated, Dianetic Theory is interesting yet unproven.
The webpage you link to describes some terrible tragedies. You will get no argument from me on any of the "facts" presented. Although I do not have in my possession firm statistics, I think that it is likely that these types of tragedies can be found in ALL religions and/or social groups. If your intention truthdude is to demonstrate that Scientology is bad, you must first demonstrate how statistics show that more of these tragedies happen in the community of Scientologists versus the community of Christians, or the community of Islam, etc. While I reiterate my view that Scientology seems less than a religion (not deity based), the fact is that ALL religions have zealots and extremists who will commit atrocious acts in the name of their personal (skewed) view. Those views do not necessarily coincide with the views of the community. Catholicism has documented cases of church members practicing "exorcism" to rid an individual of "demons" which very well may be a manifestation of psychological disorder. Some of these practices have also resulted in tragedy. Yet we generally choose not to condemn the entire Catholic community based upon these (perhaps misguided) incidents.
Scientology at some point was based upon the book Dianetics. In that book there is no mention of denying food or nutrition to a person in order to audit or clear them. No mention is made in that book that traditional scientific medicine cannot utilized. In fact, Dianetics the book contains no "commandments" whatsoever, it simply describes a theory about how the human mind works and how problems originating in the mind can manifest in other ways. It also describes a method of "therapy" whereby you can eliminate the "aberrations" of the mind that cause problems in life. This concept of "Dianetic Therapy" is what I find hard to swallow. I have only read the book Dianetics and I am not a Scientologist, therefore, I cannot speak firmly regarding what additional beliefs the "church" members impose on one another, but in my view it is dangerous to generalize about any community of people.
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Austin, TX | Re: Eh I sense a Scientologist at work here. | |
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1 edit | Re: Eh said by gpurcell :I sense a Scientologist at work here. Can you not read? I clearly stated that I am NOT a Scientologist. Your statement is a clear example of part of the problem... people throughout society are quick to draw conclusions based upon NO evidence. I simply choose not to discount something or someone based upon generalizations.
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be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
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I lead my own life, others are allowed to choose theirs.
said by hoyleysox :dianetics is a bunch of platitudes. Scientology is all about your $. Again, no argument here, which is why I spoke of it as Dianetic THEORY not truth. How many other organizations in society are also all about your $?
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Long Beach, CA | Don't give up your friends and family - they are not SPs. People do care about you.
dianetics is a bunch of platitudes. Scientology is all about your $. | |
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| said by elios :becouse Christianity doesnt ask you for hundreds of thousands for dollars to "improve your life" or brain wash there follows to leave there friends and family Christianity is harmless it hasnt killed people like Scientology has I'm no lover or Scientology, but your opinion of Christianity ignores 2 millenia of attrocities commited in the name of Christ, much of it at the behest of church leaders. Look up the Inquisition. Look up Blood Libel, Look up the Crusades. Look up the persecution and near annihilation of European Jews through the middle ages. Should I continue that list? | |
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
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join:2002-09-23 | Re: Eh You'll never sort these historical things out until you learn to distinguish Roman Catholicism from Biblical Christianity. | |
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| Re: Eh said by Shamayim :You'll never sort these historical things out until you learn to distinguish Roman Catholicism from Biblical Christianity. And the distinction is?
One is just as guilty as the other. Roman Catholicism was an instrument of State control for thousands of years. Biblical Christianity is an instrument of intolerance and judgmentalism in this country. It's what Mike Huckleberry uses to condemn "Homasexshuls", "Jooz", "Izlammerz" and anyone who ain't a good, God-fearin' redneck lahk' hisself
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hpguru
Curb Your Dogma
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| Re: Eh said by DrModem :Study some history. Christianity has (and in some countries currently is) been outlawed many times in history. Did that stop it? No. Is it stopping it now? No. Outlawing Christianity has been proven many times over in history to be futile. Your beloved President Death has already put everything in place to take you down, fools!
said by DrModem :Because... you can't fight true religion. Science has already discovered how to artificially create "religious" experiences in the brains of human subjects and the ability to correct this brain malfuncton is just around the corner. So cheer up! Soon there will be a permanent cure for this wasting disease.
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Seattle, WA | Sure it doesnt help... but it sure is fun!! | |
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| Re: Re: Leave Tom Alooooooooooone! Don't forget about them trying to censor the internet. The was their biggest mistake. They're used to bulling people around with their lawyers and hiding behind the constitution and the law that they always get away with it. But there is no way they could have foreseen the power that Anon has over the internet to start something of this magnitude. Everyone needs to educate themselves on this evil organization.
Read about Lisa McPherson And Tory Christman and numerous others. Watch the South Park episode no matter silly you think the show is. It paints a pretty accurate picture of this organization.
There are dozens of websites dedicated to this cause. Visit them. People have been trying to close down this organization for fifty years. All with no success. It looks like they are all pulling there resources together now to build a better their case. I think that if you learn more about this group you will want to do everything you can to put an end to this insanity. Up until recently I didn't take them very seriously because I thought it was just some harmless wacky Hollywood church that everybody liked to laugh at. But it is not. This is a very dangerous organization that everyone should be concerned about that needs to be stopped.
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Shamayim
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join:2002-09-23 | Scientology = cult End of story. | |
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| Reactive Critics Critics attack because can not fathom watching the wind blow. From their (better) point of view, they are doing parishioners (and all mankind) a service by informing them (and the public) of potential harm. Then, since that action has not been fruitful, FORCING the situation by spending their own, good, hard-earned money to FORCE the Church to comply with what they KNOW is good for everyone. Critics can't stop themselves. Oh, hum, tsk, tsk. | |
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI | Don't Mess with Alien Technology What happens when the Scientologists begin uncloaking ancient alien technology and fight back?
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1 edit | Re: Censored by Chanology You havent? What about the 20+ videos they've ordered Youtube to take down, or threatened to sue/have sued other sites if they don't comply? Videos which are not copyrighted, and just mention Scientology? Ones that they don't agree with, that make them look bad?
I call that censorship. Infact... I don't even call it censorship, I call it bullying. I for one, am glad they're getting what they deserve.
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haven't seen any censorhip by scientology Hmm, how 'bout the time Helena Kobrin threatened to sue the internet over a newsfroup?
She got a kook award for that one.
Shortly after that, the sporge attacks started. Nobody ever proved the attacks came from $cientology supporters, but the timing was very suspicious. | |
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TuPaK
join:2002-07-21
San Gabriel, CA | How about we get Tom to beef up the DDOS protection since he knows he's the only one who can help
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badtrip
East Bay
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| Why Scientology? I'm sure that Scientology is a piece if shit religion. As a matter of fact, when I was in junior high, my mom's boss made everyone at his dentist office read Scientology books and made them go to meetings a other nonsense. My mom told me that Scientology was the biggest pile of donkey anuses and nonsense she'd ever seen.
I'm also sure that Scientology does all the things Anonymous claims they do...but I can think of corporations orders of magnitude greedier and scarier than Scientology, no doubt. How about Blackwater? That Prince guy and his goons are a hell of alot scarier than any scientologist I've ever seen. Further, what about Haliburton and their scumbag enablers Bush and Cheney? If anything defines greed it is that horrible cabal. AT&T and Verizon? They sold out their customers (and the rest of the world along with them) for who knows what kind of money and/or government allowances.
In short, when it comes to greed, violence and apathy, there are much bigger corporate fish to fry than Scientology. | |
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Sonic.Net
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| Re: Why Scientology? They chose Scientology as a target for a couple of key reasons:
•It's there
•They're relatively easy to make fun of
•They're almost certain to react in a way that Anonymous will find entertaining
Most of the big evil corporations out there are unlikely to respond the way that Anonymous expects the Church of Scientology to, so they aren't interesting targets. Supposing that this is some kind of political or religious movement is to grossly overestimate the motives of Anonymous. They're doing it for the lulz, wrapping themselves in the thinnest veneer of moral superiority, mostly for the benefit of unwitting onlookers.
The best course of action the CoS could take would be to ignore Anonymous and wait for them to get bored. Anonymous may not forgive nor forget, but Anonymous is fickle and loses interest quickly when unprovoked. Ask Hal Turner.
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
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Kenner, LA | Let people be who they want to Everyone should be able to be the person they are and just don't worry about others. The more you worry about others the more you waste your own time on something that makes no difference. You can't change people. | |
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| If my house is on fire and I don't realize it because I'm in the basement, I would home someone would come in and inform me before I burned to death. Even if they break my basement window and haul me out forcefully,once I'm out and can see the raging inferno behind me, I'd be very grateful. As such, I feel it is my responsiblity to do the same for others. Otherwise, how can I count on anyone else doing it for me.
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